We’re In…..
by Tom on June 1, 2009
in Market Musings
How do we get out?
That’s a question that needs to be asked about not only GM, but also AIG, Citigroup, Bank of America……
We’ve done what the collective government wisdom thought we needed to do (which I don’t agree with) and now we’re in a quagmire of debt, security interests, government ownership of private assets and politicians who are essentially running companies.
What we do and how we get out of it is going to have almost as big of an impact on what the future looks like as what we did to get in.
Tom Vanderwell
News Analysis – Now a Question of Timing G.M.’s Exit From Bankruptcy – NYTimes.com
President Obama boiled down his three goals as the reluctant majority shareholder of General Motors this way on Monday: “To get G.M. back on its feet, take a hands-off approach and get out quickly.”If only it were that easy.Over the next few months, Mr. Obama and his auto task force will face many tests as they try to create a new paradigm for the nationalization, however temporary, of a storied and troubled emblem of American industr

Fed President – “Too Big Has Failed…..”
Bill at Calculated Risk has the story about Fed President Hoenig’s speech.
I’ve copied excerpts of the speech – my comments are in bold and italics…..
From Kansas City Fed President Thomas Hoenig: Too Big has Failed
We understandably would prefer not to “nationalize” these businesses, but in reacting as we are, we nevertheless are drifting into a situation where institutions are being nationalized piecemeal with no resolution of the crisis.
Tom here – I think that’s an important to think about. We don’t want to nationalize Citibank and Bank of America and others (AIG) but in reality we already have. However the piecemeal way we’ve done it has not come any closer to solving the problems we’re dealing with.
Back to the speech…..
There are several lessons we can draw from these past experiences.• First, the losses in the financial system won’t go away – they will only fester and increase while impeding our chances for a recovery.
Tom here – the losses are not strictly an accounting “procedure.” They are actual cash losses. I know of one situation in a bank (not mine) where a $15 million loan package that is in the process of going “under” will most likely end up getting settled for approximately $4 million. That means that that particular bank took $11 million in deposits and investors money and lost it.
• Second, we must take a consistent, timely, and specific approach to major institutions and their problems if we are to reduce market uncertainty and bring in private investors and market funding.
• Third, if institutions — no matter what their size — have lost market confidence and can’t survive on their own, we must be willing to write down their losses, bring in capable management, sell off and reorganize misaligned activities and businesses, and begin the process of restoring them to private ownership.
Tom here – So, do you think he’s talking about Bank of America? Citibank? General Motors? AIG? Whoever he’s talking about, it lays out a pretty clear picture of what needs to be done to “start over.”
How should we structure this resolution process? While a number of details would need to be worked out, let me provide a broad outline of how it might be done.
First, public authorities would be directed to declare any financial institution insolvent whenever its capital level falls too low to support its ongoing operations and the claims against it, or whenever the market loses confidence in the firm and refuses to provide funding and capital.
Tom here – using those standards, I believe that many of the 19 banks that are currently undergoing the government mandated stress tests will fail this parameter.
This directive should be clearly stated and consistently adhered to for all financial institutions that are part of the intermediation process or payments system. …
Next, public authorities should use receivership, conservatorship or “bridge bank” powers to take over the failing institution and continue its operations under new management. That’s right, under new management. As badly as the banks are messed up right now, in order to inspire investor confidence, we need new management.
Following what we have done with banks, a receiver would then take out all or a portion of the bad assets and either sell the remaining operations to one or more sound financial institutions or arrange for the operations to continue on a bridge basis under new management and professional oversight. In the case of larger institutions with complex operations, such bridge operations would need to continue until a plan can be carried out for cleaning up and restructuring the firm and then reprivatizing it. Shareholders would be forced to bear the full risk of the positions they have taken and suffer the resulting losses.
And Hoenig concludes:
While hardly painless and with much complexity itself, this approach to addressing “too big to fail” strikes me as constructive and as having a proven track record.Moreover, the current path is beset by ad hoc decision making and the potential for much political interference, including efforts to force problem institutions to lend if they accept public funds (take that Barney Frank!); operate under other imposed controls; and limit management pay, bonuses and severance. If an institution’s management has failed the test of the marketplace, these managers should be replaced. They should not be given public funds and then micro-managed, as we are now doing under TARP, with a set of political strings attached. Many are now beginning to criticize the idea of public authorities taking over large institutions on the grounds that we would be “nationalizing” our financial system. I believe that this is a misnomer, as we are taking a temporary step that is aimed at cleaning up a limited number of failed institutions and returning them to private ownership as soon as possible. This is something that the banking agencies have done many times before with smaller institutions and, in selected cases, with very large institutions. In many ways, it is also similar to what is typically done in a bankruptcy court, but with an emphasis on ensuring a continuity of services. In contrast, what we have been doing so far is every bit a process that results in a protracted nationalization of “too big to fail” institutions.
… Some are now claiming that public authorities do not have the expertise and capacity to take over and run a “too big to fail” institution. They contend that such takeovers would destroy a firm’s inherent value, give talented employees a reason to leave, cause further financial panic and require many years for the restructuring process. We should ask, though, why would anyone assume we are better off leaving an institution under the control of failing managers, dealing with the large volume of “toxic” assets they created and coping with a raft of politically imposed controls that would be placed on their operations? In contrast, a firm resolution process could be placed under the oversight of independent regulatory agencies whenever possible and ideally would be funded through a combination of Treasury and financial industry funds. Furthermore, the experience of the banking agencies in dealing with significant failures indicates that financial regulators are capable of bringing in qualified management and specialized expertise to restore failing institutions to sound health. This rebuilding process thus provides a means of restoring value to an institution, while creating the type of stable environment necessary to maintain and attract talented employees. Regulatory agencies also have a proven track record in handling large volumes of problem assets – a record that helps to ensure that resolutions are handled in a way that best protects public funds. Finally, I would argue that creating a framework that can handle the failure of institutions of any size will restore an important element of market discipline to our financial system, limit moral hazard concerns, and assure the fairness of treatment from the smallest to the largest organizations that that is the hallmark of our economic system.
Tom here – I’ll be the first to admit that I’m not a scholar of bank failures. Having worked for a bank (a variety of them actually) for the last 18 years, I really hope that the bank I’m working for never fails. However, a couple of things about his ideas stand out:
- They are logical, rational and appear to be well thought out.
- They don’t appear to be pushing towards a long term “ownership” by the government but rather a way to get a big mess resolved, reworked and moved into something better.
- The current plan doesn’t seem to be working. When Citigroup, the 2nd largest bank in the country is currently trading for only slightly more than the cost of a Jr. Bacon Cheeseburger at Wendys, something isn’t working…..


The Best Description I’ve read on what to do with the Banks….
Barry Ritholtz is outspoken, well educated, and very knowledgeable. He also, in my opinion, lays out the best description of what should be done with banks. In my opinion, this would make a big difference, what do you think?
The New N Word: Nationalization | The Big Picture
Instead, why don’t we call it by a more accurate, precise, and less scary name: FDIC mandated, pre-packaged Chapter 11, government funded reorganization.
That is an accurate description of what occurred with Washington Mutual (WAMU) now part of JPM Chase, and Wachovia, now part of Wells Fargo. The Feds step in, seamlessly transfer control of the assets to a new owner, while simultaneously wiping out the debt, the shareholders, and giving a huge haircut to the bondholders.Let’s look at each of these in turn:
• FDIC mandated: What does that mean? Well, by law, the FDIC is required to handle the liquidation or reorgs of insolvent banking institutions. We have prevented that normal process thru the application of trillions of dollars in bailout monies;• pre-packaged The entire process is mapped out in advance so as to make it fast and seamless. WAMU depositors did not notice a single change over the weekend their FDIC mandated, pre-packaged Chapter 11 workout, government funded reorganizatio occured. The only observable difference was that WAMU customers were no longer charged an ATM fee when they went to Chase ATMs, as it was now the same company;
• Chapter 11 The full bankruptcy protection applies — meaning employees still get paid, secured creditors do not suffer, and debtor in possession financing (DiP) is available to the bank;• government funded The source of the DiP funding;
• reorganization Just what it sounds like — new board of directors, management transitions out to a new team, recaptalized, bad debt taken off of the books, toxic assets spun out.What emerges is a clean bank, no debt, well capitalized, and free of deadly toxic assets. You can see why so many people would find this state of affairs utterly objectionable.
In all seriousness, I understand the objection by shareholders — already down 90% — who would be wiped out by this. I fail to see the merit in the save-the-banks-at-any-cost arguments so many are proferring and preferring.
If the choice is between going Swedish or turning Japanese, you can call me Inga . . .


While bank stocks are rebounding today…..
There’s a lot going on behind the scenes that really could change things going forward. Let me lay out a couple of thoughts:
- The overall direction of the stock market shows, in my opinion, that the markets don’t like the Citibank cash infusion plan that it looks the government is going to implement.
- On Wednesday, the government is going to announce their “plan” for hopefully putting an end to the problem of confidence in the banking sector. Here’s hoping that it will be more specific than their past announcements and will actually address the issues.
- There are a lot of questions about what nationalization of banks would entail, very few answers and lots of opinions.
Stay tuned,
Stress test could lead to some bank nationalization – MarketWatch
WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) – As part of the latest efforts by regulators to stem the financial crisis, U.S. regulators are preparing another round of capital injections to financial institutions that fail to pass a new government stress test or obtain private financing.
As the Treasury and other bank regulators consider how many funds to provide to troubled financial institutions, regulatory observers argue that failure to pass the stress test could lead to a wide variety of infusions, with some extremely troubled institutions being nationalized by government bank agencies. Details of the plan, which could also include forced mergers, are expected to be released Wednesday.


The State of Banking…..
When you look at the trend in stock prices for many of the bigger banks (present company included), I have to believe a couple of things:
- The trend can’t continue – Duh!
- The more people vote “no confidence” with their stock sales, the harder it’s going to be for the current government “initiatives” to work within the banking world.
- Expect that something will happen soon.
Do I know what the shape of the banking world is going to be, no, I don’t. But it’s going to change…..
Investors are starting to figure out that “too big to fail” might just end up meaning “all your deposits and assets belong to the government,” if Friday morning’s trading activity in equity markets is any indication.


Housing, Stimulus and Nationalization
by Tom on February 19, 2009
in Market Musings, banks, house prices
Thanks again to Bill over at Calculated Risk for making me aware of this video of Dr. Roubini. Many people refer to him as “Dr. Doom” because of his negative view of where things are at and what happened and is happening.
I prefer to refer to him as “Dr. Common Sense” because he, in my mind, makes a lot of sense. Listen to what he says about Housing, the Stimulus package and nationalization of banks.
More later,
Calculated Risk: Roubini: Housing, Stimulus and Nationalization
PBS’ Nightly Business Report – Professor Nouriel Roubini on the economy


